A Chair for Everyone: My Chat with Tara Abramowicz on Neurodiversity, Haircuts & Radical Kindness
There are some conversations that stick with you—this one with Tara Abramowicz definitely did.
Tara’s been in the hair industry for over 20 years, but what really struck me was how deeply she’s woven inclusivity into her work behind the chair. From the moment we started chatting, I knew this wasn’t going to be your average salon talk.
We dove into her journey—how she started doing hair in her friends’ kitchens, went to hair school without even being sure she wanted to be there, and then had a lightbulb moment at her very first hair show. “These people have it figured out,” she told herself. And just like that, she was hooked on the world of hair education.
But where the conversation really opened up was when Tara shared her experiences as an autistic stylist with ADHD—and how discovering that about herself in recent years transformed how she works and advocates for others.
She explained how, early on, she’d visualize haircuts like blueprints floating above people’s heads (amazing, right?), and how she’d get funny looks for reacting strongly to unexpected interruptions. Now, she advocates clearly and confidently for her own needs—and encourages others to do the same. “I just say, ‘Hey, please don’t approach me from behind. Just give me a look—I’ll know what you mean.’”
One of the most powerful parts of our chat was Tara’s approach to working with autistic clients. She talked about creating a sensory-safe environment, never assuming someone wants their hair shampooed (pro tip: ask first!), and offering small but meaningful tools like her Chatter Chill Card and the Weighted Cape, which she proudly champions. These aren’t gimmicks—they’re game changers for clients who need a little extra support to feel at ease in the salon.
We also shared a moment around kids’ cuts—those sessions where the biggest win isn’t the haircut itself, but the fact that a client feels safe enough to even sit in the chair. “That moment when a kid just walks in, sits down, and lets you start cutting? That’s the win,” Tara said. Couldn’t agree more.
If you’re a stylist looking to create a more welcoming, inclusive salon experience—this is one interview you don’t want to miss. Tara drops gems on everything from neurodivergent communication to salon culture shifts, and why asking simple questions (like “Do you enjoy shampooing?”) can make all the difference.
🎥 Watch the full video for real talk, industry insights, and a whole lot of heart. Trust me—you’ll leave feeling inspired to rethink how we show up for all our clients.
You can find Tara at:
https://www.instagram.com/tara_abramowicz/
Transcript
Liam Shea(00:00)
Thank you so much, Tara, for joining me. I wanted to just start off by asking you a little bit about your history in this industry. How did you get your start? How long have you been doing it, et cetera?
Tara Abramowicz (00:16)
I’ve been doing hair for about 20 years now, which is so funny to think of. It’s like, I remember being the baby stylist and there was like the veteran stylist and I was like, I’m just a kid in the house and now I’m the veteran stylist. And I started out by literally just doing my friend’s hair at my house. And my stepmom was like, do you just wanna do this? I was like, I don’t know, I guess. So I literally went to hair school like not interested really in doing hair.
Liam Shea (00:43)
Mm-hmm.
Tara Abramowicz (00:44)
And then I came out and I went to my first hair show within like probably three months of graduating and I was like, no, I need to be like these people. Like these people have it figured out. So I immediately wanted to be an educator right off the bat.
Liam Shea (00:59)
Yeah, that’s amazing. That’s awesome. I wish I’d wanted to be an educator right off the bat. I didn’t understand how to educate because I didn’t, I saw a limited amount of it that was going well for myself. But I know what mean. I’ve been in the industry for now 25 years, which feels really strange. I still kind of feel like I’m the baby in the room sometimes until people start telling me that language that I’m using doesn’t mean what it used to mean and things like that.
Tara Abramowicz (01:21)
same
Mmm. And you’re like, I guess I’m not a kid in the house.
Liam Shea (01:30)
So, yeah. Yeah.
Yes. Yeah, I got called out a lot this past weekend when I was staying with a group of people in New Orleans for show. They just kept saying, that doesn’t mean that anymore. means that, well, okay, fine. Okay, so you’ve been doing hair for 20 years.
Tara Abramowicz (01:47)
No.
Liam Shea (01:53)
Neurodiversity and neurodivergence at what point?
Tara Abramowicz (01:55)
Okay.
Liam Shea (02:01)
Were you aware that you were on some level? Are you on some level neurodivergent? You are. Yeah. Yep.
Tara Abramowicz (02:06)
Yeah, yeah, so I’m autistic
and I’m also I have pretty severe ADHD so I would say The point that I learned was actually pretty recent. It was within the past six years And there was a lot of signs. I mean, I’m not gonna lie. Like I remember my first salon I was at Trying to explain a haircut to somebody being like, okay, so you just have to like picture like the blueprint
you know what mean? Like the blueprint above their head and then like how it would look like is this. And literally I’m like explaining this to the salon and they’re like staring at me. And they were like, you picture haircuts, like a blueprint and I was like, yeah, like a hologram right above the client and they’re like, we don’t do that. And so there were signs. There were signs. Yeah.
Liam Shea (02:54)
Yes, I love that. I love that. That’s amazing. Yes, I know. I know. I remember the first time I’m like, wait, you
mean you don’t have a voice that’s constantly telling you a story as long as you’re awake? that’s strange. thought, yeah, okay. Good to know. That’s really interesting.
Tara Abramowicz (03:09)
And you’re like, that’s, that must be crazy.
Yeah.
Liam Shea (03:19)
It can be hard to spot in this industry sometimes because I think there can be some that feels like there’s a higher percentage of people, certainly on the ADHD side of things, probably not on the ASD autism side of things. And then they have crossovers it feels like.
Tara Abramowicz (03:25)
Thank
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, there’s a lot of crossovers. think the things that for me that did make it a little difficult in our industry, specifically being autistic was things that like I didn’t even necessarily realize. Like I thought I was just being super type A or super like, like, no, I don’t like that. And people would kind of get put off because, know, like, let’s say the receptionist would come over to say, Hey, just so know, your next client is here. And I’d be like, don’t approach me.
Don’t approach me when I’m not expecting you. Just like, give me like a sign with your eyes. And I started to realize that like, now, if I approach things in the way of accommodations and I say something like, Hey, like, just, you know, I don’t really like to be approached specifically from behind. So if you can just make yourself seen by me, I’ll look at you and I’ll know what you’re trying to tell me. Like I’ll guess that my client’s here because I know what time it is and I know that they’re coming and.
Liam Shea (04:26)
Thank
Tara Abramowicz (04:30)
Now I require accommodations versus coming off as like, don’t touch me, don’t come up to me, don’t make any loud sounds, you know, things like that. So.
Liam Shea (04:38)
Yeah, that’s awesome that you say now you require accommodations. It almost feels more like though that you now you’re able to advocate for yourself in a way that’s going to be easier for you and easier for people around you as well.
Tara Abramowicz (04:51)
Yeah.
Well, that’s, that’s exactly it. Right. Because it’s, it’s while my disability isn’t, isn’t always easy for me. I also can recognize that it can not be the norm for other people to experience. like, you know, I remember having to like coach team members and tell my face what to look like so that they knew I was trying to be kind. And it’s like, gosh, if I could just say to somebody, Hey, you know what?
Liam Shea (05:17)
Mm-hmm.
Tara Abramowicz (05:23)
I would love if you just listen to my words, because sometimes my face tells a different story. And say this ahead of the game so that they like maybe won’t be as offended or maybe don’t be like, gosh, is Tara mad at me or what’s going on here? And then now we have this so much more open and loving relationship as like a work colleagues that we could just be like, Hey, cool. What’s going on? Because it kind of sets it’s, I don’t know, it, sets the game.
play, you know, for us as coworkers.
Liam Shea (05:54)
Yeah. Do you ever find its?
cultural to a degree as well just in that we both kind of grew up in cultures that Maybe don’t always say what they mean on the outside like there’s a little bit of politeness attached to things so people tend to if you just state what you need or how you feel people might take offense to it because usually it’s wrapped in candy and coating
Tara Abramowicz (06:30)
I think it can be cultural. think, you know, being somebody who does a lot of traveling, I love going all over the world and
I will say that there are different cultures that do tend to be a little bit more blunt. mean, I know personally, like in the Netherlands, they’ll just be like, well, I don’t really like that movie. And the person would be like, I do like that movie. I don’t care for your opinion. And it’s like not a necessarily rude thing. You know, I think it can be cultural. However, that said, I might stick out in different ways in those cultures, not necessarily just the way I’m speaking.
Liam Shea (06:42)
Thank
Yes.
Tara Abramowicz (07:05)
just like any other person might, right? So.
Liam Shea (07:08)
Definitely. Yeah, definitely. know, yeah. Yeah. I know with my ADHD, advocating for myself made my life much easier. That might be the easiest thing. You know, for myself, I think I was really effective at masking from a really young age, which, you know, is it good? Is it bad? We probably all recognize it’s easier.
Tara Abramowicz (07:09)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Liam Shea (07:37)
or it’s simpler sometimes being able to mask early on rather than sort of the longer process of having to memorize what things mean. What does that mean? Okay, cool, I’ll add that into my toolbox
of remembering what that facial expression means. Do you do a lot of hair for folks who are autistic?
Tara Abramowicz (07:53)
Right.
I actually I’ve opened up my chair to and I don’t want to say I’ve opened up like it’s this new thing all along. I’ve seen lots of disabled folks, but I’ve made it very known and very clear that I’m a safe space for all people. You know, I don’t I don’t care where you’re at in the world. I want to see you if you need your hair done.
Liam Shea (08:06)
No.
Tara Abramowicz (08:18)
which does include a lot of autistic folks. does include some people that maybe are just intellectually disabled and don’t necessarily like label themselves, within the spectrum. Maybe they have a different type of disability. and so with that, I, I really do make sure that I ask people. If they require any accommodations, I ask every person that it’s not just like, do I think this person needs it? I just ask everybody, is there any part of the service you don’t like? You know, there’s like this whole thing about.
doing hair where everybody’s like, oh, everybody likes the favorite part everybody has is being shampooed. And if I could tell you that probably 50 % of my clientele don’t like to be in the sink. They don’t like their hair washed. And so I ask people, do you like being washed before I wash their hair? And I think that if I could teach any stylist anything, it’s before you bring somebody to the sink, say, do you enjoy a shampoo?
Liam Shea (08:54)
No.
Yeah. Yeah.
Tara Abramowicz (09:14)
It’s that simple because
whether or not somebody’s on the spectrum, they might not like getting water in their ears. They might not like, you know, so it’s just a good habit to ask, but I do, work with a lot of autistic folks and we make accommodations based person per person, whatever they need.
Liam Shea (09:30)
Yeah, Well, I couldn’t agree more. I do lots of kids’ hair. I, you know, after a few years of consistently doing it, everybody else seemed bothered by doing kids’ hair. didn’t really, I found it helpful. Well, they always say what they mean and want and like. Like, I find it much easier if you just tell me if you liked it or not. I can work with that. If you just never come back, I’m gonna wonder. I don’t know.
Tara Abramowicz (09:35)
Okay.
That weird? Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right.
Liam Shea (09:59)
And
in the end, I ended up having several autistic kids. And again, I found it really not that complex. For myself, I just sort of went where they are. Like they’ll…
Tara Abramowicz (10:11)
Yeah. Yeah.
Liam Shea (10:16)
let you know, I mean if you just ask if someone likes being touched or not or if you can touch them or not, it makes such a huge difference. Consent in general.
And then of course, I’m sure it’s the same for you. I found once I started successfully doing hair for kids in general, and autistic kids in particular, everybody starts showing up as soon as the word gets out that you don’t make them cry. And I found parents actually might be the most difficult part about dealing with kids who are autistic. It was actually like, so what we’re gonna do today is just get through an appointment that isn’t awful for them.
Tara Abramowicz (10:46)
Yeah. Oh my god. Yes. Yes.
Liam Shea (10:58)
I don’t really care what the result. We cannot cut their hair. I don’t really care. Eventually, they’ll be fine. But you’re projecting your expectations of what you needed to be, which must be incredibly difficult.
Tara Abramowicz (11:02)
Yeah.
This.
Yeah. I’ll say like as a parent of an autistic child too, it is definitely something where you find yourself in this constant state of hypervigilance. Like how was this going to go? I don’t know what’s going to happen here. And so it’s funny because I also cut a lot of autistic small children’s hair. Some of them speaking, some of them not speaking.
And what ends up happening sometimes is I have to actually kind of ask the parents to stay back a little. And it’s just because if you can imagine any person, if we had three heads hovering over you, you’d be like, okay, so what is happening? It’s a little bit more stressful for the individual in the chair a lot of times. So just really having these boundaries and then explaining to them that like, I get it, whatever happens happens. Much like you said, like if they get a haircut, they get a haircut.
Liam Shea (11:48)
Yeah.
Tara Abramowicz (12:02)
quite a few clients that come in and we’ll do half of a haircut because that’s all that child can tolerate. And then they’ll come back in four or five days. But we try to get as much as we can done. And I will never ever have a non-consenting screaming child be held down while I’m cutting their hair. It’s just not gonna happen. Like I just, I disagree with it fundamentally. Yeah.
Liam Shea (12:22)
100%. Yes, yes,
yes. I think that’s how I ended up accidentally specializing in it to a degree. I feel weird saying that. It’s just a haircut. I not wanting people to cry. Yes, no, you’re right. But like, it seems to me not wanting the person in your chair to howl and cry out loud shouldn’t really be a specific. I feel like that should be one of the primary goals.
Tara Abramowicz (12:32)
Yeah.
No, but it is a specialty because you need to know. Yeah.
Truly. Yeah.
Liam Shea (12:51)
in general, but yes. And
I also find, like I’ve had some kids, I’m sure it’s the same for you, who it took two or three years before they’d sit in the chair by themselves and just let me cut hair or use clippers or anything like that. And it is the best when that person’s comfortable. That to me is the biggest win on the planet Earth.
Tara Abramowicz (12:55)
Thank
you
Yes. Absolutely.
Yes.
Liam Shea (13:20)
is if that person just walks in and sits down in the chair and you start cutting and it’s totally normal. That feels like a huge
win to me. It might just be my ego.
Tara Abramowicz (13:32)
And I mean, no, but it’s true though. And it’s a win because you know, it’s a win for that person to be able to experience something that’s also going to help them hygienically. You know, at the end of the day, like, do we have to have haircuts? You know, in some cases, no, some people could, so long as they’re keeping the hair clean and they’re healthy and everything, great. You don’t necessarily need a haircut, but there are people who struggle with their own hygiene. They struggle maybe washing their hair and shorter hair makes more sense. So it’s like,
Liam Shea (13:37)
Yes.
Tara Abramowicz (14:00)
to have them be able to not only be safe hygienically, but also to feel good and look good and have that opportunity is huge. And I know for a fact that while it feels really good to you and I know you said like, maybe it’s my ego. No, it’s not. You literally helped a person. And then also those parents, those caretakers, whoever works with that person saw that too likely and were like, my goodness, this took years. And now the person can sit in this chair. This is like,
Liam Shea (14:07)
you
Tara Abramowicz (14:29)
wild and they probably felt so great. So I commend you for that because it is is the real thing that happens.
Liam Shea (14:31)
Yeah, it’s wonderful.
It’s just, yeah, I find kids, and particularly autistic kids, it’s just, I don’t know, it’s one of the biggest rewards that exists. It’s just amazing.
Tara Abramowicz (14:45)
It’s rewarding.
Yes, it’s true.
Liam Shea (14:50)
So your cape, how did that come about? Your weighted cape.
Tara Abramowicz (14:59)
Well, so what I want to say is I’m an ambassador for a company called the weighted Cape. So the weighted Cape, I’m an ambassador for him. That’s okay. So, the owner, the creator, the inventor, his name is Henry and he’s a barber and he is just absolutely amazing. I would say look up, you know, the weighted Cape. If you’re watching this, it’s at the weighted Cape and like, I,
Liam Shea (15:03)
you’re an ambassador for it. My apologies.
Tara Abramowicz (15:23)
was going to L’Oreal to do like a filming for we called Diversability and actually we’re about to do another filming. But as I was going, I came across Henry’s invention. It just happened to be in my For You page. And I immediately reached out to him and I was like, do you understand what a big deal this is for the autistic community? And he was like, what? Tell me more. And through this really amazing like connection on social media,
Liam Shea (15:32)
Hmm.
Tara Abramowicz (15:51)
I was able to be like, no, this is huge for the autistic community. And now it’s something that, you know, he became Sensory Safe certified and like all this stuff. And now he’s a huge ally to the community. And I’m like, we’re like this. So anywhere I go and I’m talking about, you know, teaching about servicing disabled people and advocating for the disability community, I talk about the weighted cape because this is a life changing product for so many people.
And just the fact that you could literally just like put a cape and make somebody feel more comfortable. I was cracking up because I went to the dentist yesterday and they put the lead thing on me. And I was like, man, why didn’t I bring my weighted cape? Why didn’t I bring it? Because it’s like, I could have been so much more comfortable getting my cavity filled. gosh, you know, I just think it’s such a great tool. And I’m really excited to be partnered with Henry on that.
Liam Shea (16:30)
Mm-hmm.
Tara Abramowicz (16:47)
And like really all it was was me reaching out saying, I want to tell people about your product. and he like welcomed bandwidth opening open arms and said, like, let’s do this. So I’m really thankful.
Liam Shea (16:57)
anything. Just reaching out to people is
one of the main things I tell new stylists in the industry when they’re like, do I do? How do I find a mentor? What do I do next? I just message people, just reach out. People are people. Most people like to be asked about what they’re good at.
Tara Abramowicz (17:18)
Yeah. I’m like, so for me with my business with the, um, the chatter chill card, it was something that just, was actually right around 2020 that when people, was right around the time I discovered I was autistic. It was when
Liam Shea (17:24)
Yeah.
Tara Abramowicz (17:36)
I don’t know, I had a lot of clients that wanted to talk, didn’t want to talk, were anxious coming into the salon. And for me, was all about inclusivity tool as well. Just like the weighted cape is an inclusivity tool, the chatter chill card is as well, because when I had it printed, was kind of like, it was like my prototype. It was just a little plastic card. And I realized that doesn’t help somebody if they need to touch it or, you know, and so then I ended up quitting that and getting an embossed metal card.
Liam Shea (17:46)
Thank
Tara Abramowicz (18:04)
so that somebody could feel it and know that there’s a texture and make out the words if they were having trouble, as well as my font and my spacing being accessible for reading devices as well. So it was really important to me to make that accessible for people, just decide if they wanna talk or not, or chill in the salon. And I’m really proud to say it’s taken off quite a bit and I’m still pushing it. I’m still making that happen.
Liam Shea (18:14)
Amazing.
How do people find that? How do people get it?
Tara Abramowicz (18:31)
Any way we can make people feel comfortable.
So thank you. They can get it at clientexperiencecard.com. So that’s my website. And there’s all different types. like, you know, some people don’t have like a mirror with like a shelf, you know, maybe they just only have a mirror. I have a mirror version with a suction cup. I’ve got like ones that sit on a shelf. I got fancy ones. I have ones that are a little bit more like low brow and kind of just chill if we want it more understated. So.
I have, I think, five different models. thank you.
Liam Shea (19:02)
Amazing. I love it.
Okay, so I’m a new hairstylist. I’m just getting out of hair school. I’m just starting and I want to know, I’m trying to grow my career, I want to include everyone. What piece of advice would you give a new stylist?
Tara Abramowicz (19:08)
Thank you.
I think the piece of advice I would give a new stylist is never take any information as the only information you’ll receive on that topic. And it’s like, if you go to as much education as you can, first of all, but if you’ve heard, this is the only way to shampoo somebody.
Liam Shea (19:29)
.
Tara Abramowicz (19:46)
Put that in the back of your mind and say to yourself, okay, I’ve taught that this is the way that we shampoo. However, there are some other ways that individuals may prefer to be shampooed. So there are many ways to do each thing that we do and be open to learning and hearing from everybody, whether they’re a veteran stylist or a brand new stylist, listen to everybody you can so that you can get as much information as possible, including the clients, frankly.
Liam Shea (20:13)
Yeah, love it. Do you have people fill anything out before they come to see you? Do you have a questionnaire of any sort or do you tend to do more of that in person?
Tara Abramowicz (20:16)
Thank you.
You know, I do actually, have really certain feelings about this and it’s funny because so many people are like, do the forms, do the forms. And I’m not against a form. think it’s great in any way to ask about accommodations for people. However, as somebody who’s autistic, as somebody who has a lot of challenges with filling out forms, forms can be a barrier for a lot of people. The second I open up a page and see a form, I go, can’t do it. My brain says no, thank you. And then that’s it. And I’ll never go.
Whereas if somebody said, I have a question for you. Do you have anything at the salon that makes you uncomfortable? I’d be like, well, wait, now I’m thinking about it. You know, so I usually open up the conversation whenever I have a new client come to see me. I’ll just open up the conversation like, Hey, so talk to me about coming to the salon. Do you have any accessibility accommodations you require?
Liam Shea (21:07)
Right.
Tara Abramowicz (21:23)
That’s kind of like a buzzword, of course, like accessibility is all about disability and making sure like, let’s say somebody needs to know if there’s a ramp or not. and maybe somebody who doesn’t like their hair shampooed wouldn’t necessarily think, no, I don’t have accessibility accommodations. Right. So they say, no. I say, okay, great. there are some things that I do at the salon that I just want to be sure these are things that you love. I will do a lot of like shampooing and aromatherapy work.
Do you like sense? You know, and they might be like, you know what? I actually have sensitive skin. Okay, excellent. I’m going to write that down. You have sensitive skin. And I just talked to them about it because, know, it’s kind of just like, this is just normal. We’re just chatting. And then if they’re like, no, no, I just normal, you know, they’ll be like, I just, no, no, no, no, no. I love coming to salon. I love, then I just let it be shut down. They want to shut it down. I’m going to shut it down. and then you can usually tell when somebody’s like, well, wait, yes.
I’m like, cool, cool. Let’s talk about that more, you know? So it’s pretty cool to just see what happens when you ask the questions. Now, I love that people are doing forms. I love it. But not everybody has a caretaker to fill out the forms for them. So I just like to put that as food for thought for people who use their forms, that when they have individuals reach out to them, maybe even have a slot like, are forms too much for you? Click here. And boom, now we have an option. Exactly.
Liam Shea (22:24)
Mm.
Yes.
Yes, let’s give it, yes.
It can also feel like being at the doctor sometimes when you’re handed the clipboard with 300 pages of stuff I’m supposed to fill out about my medical history and maybe I just want to come in and chat about it. We can talk about how I feel while I’m there.
Tara Abramowicz (22:56)
Okay.
Right. And it’s like, if it’s a,
yeah, like if it’s a digital form, I’m slightly better. But if you were to, if anybody handed me a piece of paper, I also have a writing disability. I can’t, I physically can’t write. I’ll be there for 45 minutes trying to like fill out one piece of paper. So it’s, it’s just not going to happen. So I would probably get up and leave embarrassed. So just keep in mind that those people exist. If you’re somebody who does those things and I agree with you, it’s like,
Liam Shea (23:12)
Oof.
Yes.
Tara Abramowicz (23:32)
Forms are great, they’re important, but they can be like, to your point, a little informal. or sorry, not informal, formal, too formal. That’s the wrong word. Yeah, So.
Liam Shea (23:37)
Yeah. Too formal. Yeah. Yeah. And salons
can be, this is something.
Separate from what we’re talking about specifically, I remember really early on, even before I started working in salons, somebody for a birthday present got me a haircut at the first truly fancy hair salon I’d been in. And I was so uncomfortable being in there. It felt like such a cool place that I wasn’t supposed to be in. Just being in a salon felt uncomfortable. And no one looked at me, and no one greeted me, and no one acknowledged me, and no one asked me what I needed or how I felt.
Tara Abramowicz (24:11)
Yeah.
Liam Shea (24:18)
And I remember that feeling has sort of carried on with me for years, not just about making sure you’re not chatting with your coworkers and not talking to the person who comes in the door, but just that inherent discomfort of a place you’re not used to being in for any reason. And having someone who sort of you’re in the right place. You’re where you’re supposed to be. Let’s talk about what you need. What do you not need? Yeah.
Tara Abramowicz (24:19)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I kind of laugh because, you know, I have, I’ll have clients in my chair and part of this is for me, I’m going to be very honest. It’s almost my own accommodation and kind of even, I don’t, I don’t know if it’s me scripting. I’m not a hundred percent sure. I haven’t thought about it too much, but, um, I walk people through every next step of their entire service throughout the entire service. So like, I’ll be combing their hair and say, okay, so now I’m going to work towards the front of your hair. As soon as I’m done with the front of your hair.
I’m gonna lower the chair and we’re gonna walk over to the sink and I’ll start your shampoo. And then as soon as I finish those front sections, say, okay, so now I’ve finished those front sections, I’m gonna lower the chair and I’m gonna bring you to the sink and I’m gonna start the shampoo. And I literally keep talking them through each step as we’re going through the entire process. Now I have people who kind of are funny about it. They’ll be like, okay, like that’s fine. Like I’m pretty easygoing and I’m like, I know.
I said, I just have to tell you so I don’t forget. And we make a joke about it. But I, it might actually be true. I might forget otherwise. But the fact is, that it’s like for those people who need to know what comes next, who needs to know why, if they’re comfortable in this space, now they go, okay, that’s what comes next. I can calm down and maybe just enjoy the service, you know.
Liam Shea (25:47)
Yes.
Yeah. Isn’t there a term in parenting for that? Like sports casting or newscasting? remember like really early on people would say.
way before your kid can speak, describe, verbally describe every step of what you’re doing. You now we’re gonna take your diaper off. Now we’re gonna, and it helps put a person at ease while helping someone understand what’s happening around them.
Tara Abramowicz (26:28)
Yeah.
That’s a really good point. think it’s like some type of narration, but I like the idea of like sportscasting. You know, it’s like you’re narrating what’s gonna happen.
Liam Shea (26:38)
Yeah, yeah, I just remember.
Yeah, and I mean, yeah, a bunch of people aren’t going to care. What’s the worst that happens? have. You’re describing what you’re going to do. They’ll be fine. Yeah. Yeah.
Tara Abramowicz (26:52)
So they’ll be alright.
And truly if they said you don’t need to tell me it actually makes me uncomfortable I’ll be like okay I’ll try not to. And that’s it.
Liam Shea (27:01)
Yeah.
I love
it. Okay, one last question and that’s just sort of where can people find you? Where can people find, I know you told me the website to order the form, but I think it’s on Instagram as well. What’s the best way for people to find you and ask you questions?
Tara Abramowicz (27:06)
Yeah.
Bye-bye.
I would say Instagram. I’m always open to DMs on Instagram. I love to help people. I’m also working on, I do have independent education that I work to help people understand. And that would be my link tree on my bio on Instagram that I just help people understand how to service disabled people in the industry. I also have a video coming out on L’Oreal access.
Liam Shea (27:33)
Yeah.
Tara Abramowicz (27:48)
so there’s, there’s a lot of places, but all of these videos, everything I’ve got, can find in my link tree in my bio on my Instagram. and I look forward to anybody DMing me with questions they have specifically related to disability in the, in the industry. I’m happy to help. I love to help people.
Liam Shea (28:06)
Love it. Thank you so much for doing this. I really, really appreciate it. It was tons of fun. Let’s do it again. Yeah. Okay.
Tara Abramowicz (28:12)
Thank you, Liam. I really appreciate it. Thanks. should. should. Absolutely. All
right. Thank you.